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15th-Apr-2008 02:46 pm
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Ok, finally finished with the Roman Empire and starting into European History from Charlemagne to the Union.

Problem I'm having is a few things that got mentioned but never really explained. And I have no idea where to even start looking for some of these things.

For instance, when discussing the formation of the "orthodox" church, he discussed how many of the barbarians converted to Arian Christianity rather than Orthodox Christianity (This was before the Great Schism, so it was still all one Catholic Church.) Based on the arguement being over Christ being homioousios (of a like, but not identical substance-Arian) vs Christ being homooousios(of the exact same substance-Orthodox, as decided at the Council of Nicea)... Is this the same arguement the Eastern Church was facing when debating Hypostasis vs Monophysitism? AKA, is it an arguement over the idea of Christ being wholly human and wholly divine at the same time vs the idea of the divine absorbing the humanity over time? (I'm probably asking in the wrong place here, given most of my readers are either Jewish or Pagan of some form.)

Let's see...

There was also a law against castrating slaves for profit. And I'm trying to figure out how the hell you make a profit off a eunuch. I mean, do you cook the testes and feed them to Andrew Zimmern or something?

I also found a reference to how the Old School Pagans blamed the Christians for the sacking of Rome, inspiring Augustine to write something called The City of God. Can anyone give me a brief overview here? Wading through a treatise on early Christian thought doesn't really appeal to me. (Can you tell I grew up Protestant? Presbyterian Confirmation class Church history tended to gloss over everything until the Protestant Reformation; even then we spent about 2 minutes on Martin Luther and Henry VIII. Hell, even High School Western Civ didn't spend a hell of a lot of time on the fall.)

I did find and request a few books at the library on subjects the current book raised curiousity about, so with any luck they'll arrive sooner or later.

And on another suject entirely, John's taking a nap, so I'm babysitting the shop right now. I really wish we could figure a way to branch out this business so he's not doing 80% of his business between September 15 and November 1.
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15th-Apr-2008 09:39 pm (UTC)
Sorry about your nostrils, but I'm glad someone got the joke:)
15th-Apr-2008 10:29 pm (UTC)
Arianism is complicated, but essentially comes down to the argument that God preexisted the other elements of the Trinity. In short, like theological cliff notes. There's a lot of nuance I'm leaving out.
15th-Apr-2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
So, the idea was God was God and then became the trinity?
15th-Apr-2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
Sort of. It's more along the lines that since God created the Son, the Son isn't made of the same "stuff" as God, while Trinitarian belief holds that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all different and eternal, yet part of one another.

And that leaves out the hypostatic union stuff.

15th-Apr-2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
Which is to stay, I'm not even going to address the hypostatic union stuff for now.
15th-Apr-2008 10:51 pm (UTC)
I can google that later;)

So basically, it was a non-trinitarian approach to God. God is unknown and unknowable, he created the Son, who in turn created the Holy Spirit?

15th-Apr-2008 10:58 pm (UTC)
Just stop at the first sentence, and you'll be ok for now.
16th-Apr-2008 07:51 pm (UTC)
Ok, will do
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16th-Apr-2008 07:53 pm (UTC)
It seems strange that a eunuch would be worth more than a complete man, though
16th-Apr-2008 09:25 am (UTC)
As the history major I know replied when I asked if he knew anything about Unix, eunechs make wonderful harem guards. I would assume that would make them pricier than regular slaves.
16th-Apr-2008 07:49 pm (UTC)
*Giggle fit* And the funny part of that is, according to my sex ed teacher in high school, castration doesn't kill desire r erectile function. However, since they shot blanks...
27th-Apr-2008 06:11 pm (UTC)
At least the king knew all heirs were his :).
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