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15th-Sep-2007 12:11 pm

Now, then, on to the snark. This article talks about goth students trying to change the dress code at their high school. Which I'm all for, within reason. The problem I ran into was this...

"Amaris -- a soft-spoken sophomore who said she'd never been suspended and had never received a grade lower than a C -- argues she has a right to her style of dress. She said her clothing is part of her Wiccan religion, a neo-pagan, Earth-centered faith.

"I get pulled out of classes, stopped in the hallways, all because they say our makeup is a distraction," Amaris, who signs the "A" in her name with the anarchy symbol, told the Brevard County School Board. "I think basically it is a ploy against people who are different. I am very tired of the unfair treatment that we've been given."

First off, Goth outfitting and makeup are a separate entity from Wicca. That statement alone makes you as big of an attention whore as the little girls protesting dress codes that prevent them from wearing abstinence rings or shirts prolethetizing Xtianity. You know, the ones who claim that their religious beliefs are being repressed because the school dress code was designed to not allow ANY tee-shirts or jewelry. Also, why in the hell would you wear full crow style makeup during daylight hours anyway?

What I feel like saying to this person is "If you want to dress for Wicca, shouldn't you go skyclad? I'm sure that would get you much more attention."
15th-Sep-2007 05:47 pm (UTC)
No kidding.
15th-Sep-2007 07:19 pm (UTC)
Well, it is Florida...
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15th-Sep-2007 07:19 pm (UTC)
Well, given how many goths I know who aren't pagan/wiccan, and the number of non-goth pagan wiccans I know, I couldn't help but think this girl is a dumbass. My guess is she read $ilver RavenWolf's Teen Wicca (or just looked at the cover and went from there.
15th-Sep-2007 06:49 pm (UTC)
The number of times I have had the argument with someone that my death metal tshirts, or my white-ish face powder, have NOTHING to do with my religion. You saw, assuming you looked, what I wore to perform my sister's wedding. sigh
15th-Sep-2007 07:16 pm (UTC)
You looked damned good in those pictures:)

Still trying very hard to lock down why her statement annoyed me as much as it did. I normally don't get foamy over what I consider to be stupidity, but wow, she hit a nerve.
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15th-Sep-2007 07:40 pm (UTC)
Actually, I see a career at Hot Topic or the local piercing parlor for her. At least until she finds out that business is business, no matter the industry or product. But yeah, I can hear the "The 3 eyebrow studs and 10 facial piercings are me expressing my love of Isis! Why can't I wear them at the front counter?"
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15th-Sep-2007 07:46 pm (UTC)
I dunno, they have been expanding. The fact there's one at both Easton and Polaris (the "upscale" Columbus malls) tends to suggest they're expanding into a new market.

Although I remain amused by my first hot Topic visit down at the Dayton Mall. Nothing like the nice little rivethead trying to maintain aloofness while also providing good customer service.
15th-Sep-2007 08:37 pm (UTC)
I couldn't even get past the paragraph that says her dress is part of her religion. This is one subject that makes me violently angry.

I only agree partially with changing the dress code. Because I am a believer that outrageous make up can be distracting to a point. I don't think that it is distracting in so much as it prevents students from learning, but it can create hostile environments. I think School should be casual when it comes to their dress codes. Jeans and t-shirts (of appropriate nature) are fine. I don't think that there needs to be the extreme of "Khakis and polos" but wild crazy make-up is unnecessary and it is a way for them to get attention. These kids get upset about the "negative" attention they get but what they are doing is painting a big black and white target on their face and wearing a sign that says "I'm different... ridicule me." It shouldn't be that way, but sadly that is the human nature to fear what they don't understand and some of these conservative suburban children don't understand it (I don't actually either but I'm not one to criticize someones sense of style or lack there of)

I am Pagan, not Wiccan, but if you look at how I dress I wear jeans, t's, business casual stuff. My clothing does not represent my spirituality. But you are right, if she wants to "dress for her religion" then Skyclad is the way to go.

Hang on to something I'm about to roll my eyes... ::eye roll::

::puts soapbox under the desk and walks away from the computer::
16th-Sep-2007 06:42 am (UTC)
As I recall from the dark ages when I was in school, the dress code was along the lines of Shorts must reach the knees, no message tee shirts (They got kind of pissy about the Big Johnson & No Fear shirts my Senior year), and nothing obscene. And I'd have to go look, but I believe there was something in there about excess makeup.

Really though, Even at my worst attention whoring, I wasn't trying to make a civil rights statement, particularly on something as faulty as "My clothes reflect my religion." Mostly I remember laughing at LeVay's "Spell for a woman to attract a man." I mean, seriously, what 14 year old wouldn't laugh at something that starts out "My Loins are aflame with passion!" Which is why I'm annoyed. Yeah, it's unfair that the code targets the goth crowd, but I assume it also targets the thug crowd as well.

G-d I'm rambling.

15th-Sep-2007 10:45 pm (UTC)
What I feel like saying to this person is "If you want to dress for Wicca, shouldn't you go skyclad? I'm sure that would get you much more attention."

I was thinking of saying the same thing until I read you already had it covered. I guess the biggest problem with her approach is pulling the religion card - because schools really aren't the place to preach or to spread religious viewpoints - she might have just nixed her case there.

And clothing from hot topic or wherever equalling ancient religious garb... well that is about as ludicrous as it comes... but who knows... maybe she is wearing 800-year old robes and covering herself in blue paint.

I think if I were 16 again, I would still dress to the hilt 24/7... that is one of the joys of being so young is that you can dress to the nines in broad daylight and not only get away with it, but be admired for it.

When you don't have 30-some years of experience and years to identify oneself with, I guess music, religion, fashion, etc. tend to be the primary focal points for a while when saying "this is me". I doubt that will ever change.
16th-Sep-2007 06:34 am (UTC)
Like I said, when I first read the article, all I could think of was the protests other students have been throwing about tee-shirts of any kind being banned. (Therefore, they can't wear Jesus message shirts. Which impedes their religion or something.)

From what I recall, the 1 or two goths I went to high school with kept it fairly simple (read: not whited out with greasepaint) during school hours, prefering to do the whole look in the evenings. Mind you, most of the folks who were in any kind of "scene" did that, mainly because line dancing gear ain't exactly comfortable in a school that's 80+ degrees regardless of season.
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